THE HEALTH AND HOSPITAL CORPORATION OF MARION COUNTY Review

Get our detailed analysis and review of CMS data for THE HEALTH AND HOSPITAL CORPORATION OF MARION COUNTY.

Data is as of March 07, 2024.

  The Most Important Data about THE HEALTH AND HOSPITAL CORPORATION OF MARION COUNTY

In the briefest summary, THE HEALTH AND HOSPITAL CORPORATION OF MARION COUNTY is a medical group with 199 professionals providing medical services at 14 locations. They cover 24 specialties.THE HEALTH AND HOSPITAL CORPORATION OF MARION COUNTY is affiliated with 12 hospitals

National Provider Number (NPI):

6709795974

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The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services ("CMS") compiles and distributes more than 17 tables of data on medical professionals on a sporadic basis. Some of the tables contain more than a million records which makes it very difficult to manage them. There is a lot of information to pour through when trying to understand THE HEALTH AND HOSPITAL CORPORATION OF MARION COUNTY. Luckily, we are here to help! I’ve put together this page to help you to get a better idea of what the THE HEALTH AND HOSPITAL CORPORATION OF MARION COUNTY does, their affiliations and much more. (If you want to jump to a specific section of the review, here are the section headers: Ratings, Specialities Covered, Office Locations, Affiliations, and Other Physician Groups.)

   Specialties Covered by THE HEALTH AND HOSPITAL CORPORATION OF MARION COUNTY

THE HEALTH AND HOSPITAL CORPORATION OF MARION COUNTY includes medical professionals from 24 specialties

Specialty Number
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER 37
CRITICAL CARE (INTENSIVISTS) 1
NURSE PRACTITIONER 40
PEDIATRIC MEDICINE 14
PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT 10
ADDICTION MEDICINE 2
GENERAL PRACTICE 1
CERTIFIED CLINICAL NURSE SPECIALIST (CNS) 2
FAMILY PRACTICE 22
INTERNAL MEDICINE 41
GERIATRIC MEDICINE 7
GERIATRIC PSYCHIATRY 2
HOSPICE/PALLIATIVE CARE 1
INTERVENTIONAL CARDIOLOGY 1
NEUROLOGY 1
OBSTETRICS/GYNECOLOGY 8
OPTOMETRY 3
PODIATRY 3
PREVENTIVE MEDICINE 1
PSYCHIATRY 18
CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST 4
PULMONARY DISEASE 1
CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE (CARDIOLOGY) 8
CARDIAC ELECTROPHYSIOLOGY 1

   Ratings for THE HEALTH AND HOSPITAL CORPORATION OF MARION COUNTY

When it comes to healthcare, patients want the best possible care and experience. Figuring this out and boiling it down to a few measures, can be difficult. The information below shows our best analysis. We review all of the the data from CMS. The information below summarizes the results of the most recent annual survey of health care providers called the Consumer Assessment of Healthcare Providers and Systems or "CAHPS" as well as data used for the calculation of the Merit-Based Incentive Payment System ("MIPS"). The most recent data for both of these datasets is calendar year 2021. According to the CMS website, the 2022 survey data is being finalized but they have not indicated when it will be publicly available.

CAHPS Survey Results

There is no information about the overall patient rating for THE HEALTH AND HOSPITAL CORPORATION OF MARION COUNTY.

MIPS Measures

Measure Percent Compliance
Appropriate Testing for Pharyngitis 65%
Breast Cancer Screening 56%
Cervical Cancer Screening 66%
Childhood Immunization Status 41%
Chlamydia Screening for Women 75%
Colorectal Cancer Screening 55%
Controlling High Blood Pressure 57%
Depression Remission at Twelve Months 4%
Diabetes: Hemoglobin A1c (HbA1c) Poor Control (>9%) 33%
Documentation of Current Medications in the Medical Record 69%
Electronic submission of Patient Centered Medical Home accreditation Yes
Falls: Screening for Future Fall Risk 91%
HIV Screening 67%
Immunization Registry Reporting Yes
ONC Direct Review Attestation Yes
Pneumococcal Vaccination Status for Older Adults 66%
Preventive Care and Screening: Body Mass Index (BMI) Screening and Follow-Up Plan 50%
Preventive Care and Screening: Influenza Immunization 45%
Preventive Care and Screening: Screening for Depression and Follow-Up Plan 79%
Preventive Care and Screening: Tobacco Use: Screening and Cessation Intervention 73%
Preventive Care and Screening: Tobacco Use: Screening and Cessation Intervention 94%
Preventive Care and Screening: Tobacco Use: Screening and Cessation Intervention 88%
Primary Caries Prevention Intervention as Offered by Primary Care Providers, including Dentists 6%
Provide Patients Electronic Access to Their Health Information 89%
Public Health Registry Reporting Yes
Query of the Prescription Drug Monitoring Program (PDMP) Yes
Security Risk Analysis Yes
Statin Therapy for the Prevention and Treatment of Cardiovascular Disease 74%
Support Electronic Referral Loops By Receiving and Reconciling Health Information 73%
Support Electronic Referral Loops By Sending Health Information 12%
Syndromic Surveillance Reporting Exclusion Yes
Use of High-Risk Medications in Older Adults 10%
Weight Assessment and Counseling for Nutrition and Physical Activity for Children and Adolescents 96%
Weight Assessment and Counseling for Nutrition and Physical Activity for Children and Adolescents 79%
Weight Assessment and Counseling for Nutrition and Physical Activity for Children and Adolescents 79%
e-Prescribing 96%

   THE HEALTH AND HOSPITAL CORPORATION OF MARION COUNTY Office Locations

720 ESKENAZI AVE, INDIANAPOLIS, IN 46202 Map
( 317-880-0000)
JACQUELINE ABATE
CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST
JAYME AHMED
PSYCHIATRY
JAYME AHMED
PSYCHIATRY
ADEEL ANSARI
GERIATRIC PSYCHIATRY
CARLA ARELLANO
PSYCHIATRY
ADNAN ARSEVEN (MD)
GERIATRIC MEDICINE
JENNIFER BAENZIGER
INTERNAL MEDICINE
JAMES BAKER
NURSE PRACTITIONER
ROBIN BECK
GERIATRIC MEDICINE
ANGELA BELL
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
DEEPAK BHAKTA (MD)
CARDIAC ELECTROPHYSIOLOGY
TIFFANY BLUE
NURSE PRACTITIONER
MALAZ BOUSTANI (MD)
INTERNAL MEDICINE
MALAZ BOUSTANI (MD)
INTERNAL MEDICINE
TIMOTHY BRADY
INTERNAL MEDICINE
REBEKAH BRICKER
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
VICKIE BROSE (CSW)
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
CHRISTOPHER CALLAHAN (MD)
INTERNAL MEDICINE
JENNIFER CARNAHAN
GERIATRIC MEDICINE
JENNIFER CARNAHAN
GERIATRIC MEDICINE
JUAN CHANG
FAMILY PRACTICE
JUAN CHANG
FAMILY PRACTICE
STACEY CHARLES
FAMILY PRACTICE
HUEI-SHENG CHEN (MD)
CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE (CARDIOLOGY)
MARY CICCARELLI
INTERNAL MEDICINE
MARY CICCARELLI
INTERNAL MEDICINE
JULIE CLARY
CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE (CARDIOLOGY)
JEANIE COLLINS
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
SHELBY CUTLIP
NURSE PRACTITIONER
NOEL DASGUPTA (MD)
CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE (CARDIOLOGY)
ALEXIS DAVIS
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
ALEXIS DAVIS
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
STEPHANIE DEMARIS
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
COLETTE DESPAIN
NURSE PRACTITIONER
JEANNE DICKENS (MD)
PSYCHIATRY
GREGG DODD
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
BRIAN EDMONDS
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
OFURE ESANGBEDO
FAMILY PRACTICE
OFURE ESANGBEDO
FAMILY PRACTICE
ELLEN FAN
FAMILY PRACTICE
ELLEN FAN
FAMILY PRACTICE
SAURA FORTIN ERAZO
FAMILY PRACTICE
HEATHER FRETWELL (MD)
PSYCHIATRY
HEATHER FRETWELL (MD)
PSYCHIATRY
PRIYANTHIE GANENTHIRAN
FAMILY PRACTICE
ELY GARCIA
FAMILY PRACTICE
SARAH GIBSON
NURSE PRACTITIONER
SARAH GIBSON
NURSE PRACTITIONER
GARETH GILKEY
INTERNAL MEDICINE
GARETH GILKEY
INTERNAL MEDICINE
RYAN GLEASON
NEUROLOGY
SARAH GOPMAN (MD)
FAMILY PRACTICE
SARAH GOPMAN (MD)
FAMILY PRACTICE
THERESA GRECO (MD)
INTERNAL MEDICINE
JAY HAMM
CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST
MACKENZIE HAMM
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
BRIAN HART
PSYCHIATRY
JON HATHAWAY (MD)
OBSTETRICS/GYNECOLOGY
JON HATHAWAY (MD)
OBSTETRICS/GYNECOLOGY
SHEILA HILER
INTERNAL MEDICINE
SHEILA HILER
INTERNAL MEDICINE
ANGELA HINES
NURSE PRACTITIONER
ANGELA HINES
NURSE PRACTITIONER
DIANE HORNER
NURSE PRACTITIONER
DIANE HORNER
NURSE PRACTITIONER
JUAN JARAMILLO (MD)
PSYCHIATRY
UPASANA JARORI
INTERNAL MEDICINE
RHONDA JUSTUS (NP)
NURSE PRACTITIONER
RHONDA JUSTUS (NP)
NURSE PRACTITIONER
ANANDA KANNAPPAN (MD)
INTERNAL MEDICINE
ANANDA KANNAPPAN (MD)
INTERNAL MEDICINE
BABAR KHAN (MD)
PULMONARY DISEASE
ABHISHEK KHEMKA
CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE (CARDIOLOGY)
CARLA KILGORE (MD)
PSYCHIATRY
EMERI KINNAMON
NURSE PRACTITIONER
KENNETH KLOTZ
INTERNAL MEDICINE
DMYTRO KONSTANTYNOV
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
RICHARD KOVACS (MD)
CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE (CARDIOLOGY)
ROLF KREUTZ
INTERVENTIONAL CARDIOLOGY
VALERIE LEGACY
NURSE PRACTITIONER
VALERIE LEGACY
NURSE PRACTITIONER
BETHANY LEONHARDT
CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST
BETHANY LEONHARDT
CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST
HUA LUO
PSYCHIATRY
HUA LUO
PSYCHIATRY
AMY MACKEY
INTERNAL MEDICINE
AMY MACKEY
INTERNAL MEDICINE
BURKE MAMLIN
INTERNAL MEDICINE
DEBRA MARSHALL
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
RONALD MASTOURI
INTERNAL MEDICINE
PAULA MATHEWSON
PSYCHIATRY
IRA MEANS (MD)
INTERNAL MEDICINE
CYNTHIA MISUMI (MD)
INTERNAL MEDICINE
CYNTHIA MISUMI (MD)
INTERNAL MEDICINE
MARY MITCHELL
NURSE PRACTITIONER
PAUL MOE (MD)
PSYCHIATRY
JASON MOOR
OPTOMETRY
THELMA MOORE
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
THELMA MOORE
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
DIANA MORALES ZELAYA
FAMILY PRACTICE
NICOLE NACE (MD)
INTERNAL MEDICINE
OLIVIA NIRMALASARI
INTERNAL MEDICINE
JEFFREY NULTON
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
JEFFREY NULTON
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
NYDIA NUNEZ ESTRADA
FAMILY PRACTICE
ASHLEY OVERLEY
PSYCHIATRY
ASHLEY OVERLEY
PSYCHIATRY
MEGHA PANDA
PEDIATRIC MEDICINE
POONAM PARUCHURI
GERIATRIC MEDICINE
ROBERT PATTERSON
PSYCHIATRY
PAMELA PHILLIPS
CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST
JENNIFER PILLOW
NURSE PRACTITIONER
JAMES POLLOM
NURSE PRACTITIONER
JAMES POLLOM
NURSE PRACTITIONER
CYNTHIA REED (MD)
INTERNAL MEDICINE
BRODERICK RHYANT
FAMILY PRACTICE
BRODERICK RHYANT
FAMILY PRACTICE
NICOLE RICHEY
NURSE PRACTITIONER
SHARON RIESNER (NP)
NURSE PRACTITIONER
SHARON RIESNER (NP)
NURSE PRACTITIONER
SETH RINDERKNECHT
FAMILY PRACTICE
GINA RIVERA ZELAYA
FAMILY PRACTICE
MARIA ROBLES
INTERNAL MEDICINE
SHERRY RUTHIG
NURSE PRACTITIONER
SHERRY RUTHIG
NURSE PRACTITIONER
GREG SACHS
GERIATRIC MEDICINE
GREG SACHS
GERIATRIC MEDICINE
MARY SALAMA (MD)
PSYCHIATRY
MARY SALAMA (MD)
PSYCHIATRY
EDNA SANDERS
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
AUTUMN SAUER (NP)
NURSE PRACTITIONER
PETER SCHWARTZ (MD)
INTERNAL MEDICINE
ROBERT SCHWEITZER
PSYCHIATRY
SARAH SCHWEN
FAMILY PRACTICE
SARAH SCHWEN
FAMILY PRACTICE
NICOLE SCOTT
OBSTETRICS/GYNECOLOGY
MEGAN SHRADER
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
BRIAN SMITH
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
KENNETH SMITH
PSYCHIATRY
KENNETH SMITH
PSYCHIATRY
OLEXANDR SMOLENSKY
CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE (CARDIOLOGY)
BROOKE SNIDER
NURSE PRACTITIONER
BROOKE SNIDER
NURSE PRACTITIONER
DEBORAH STAMPER
CERTIFIED CLINICAL NURSE SPECIALIST (CNS)
KATHLEEN STARK
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
CHRISTOPHER STEINMETZ
INTERNAL MEDICINE
CHRISTOPHER STEINMETZ
INTERNAL MEDICINE
RANDALL STUFFLE
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
RANDALL STUFFLE
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
AMBER THOMAS
PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT
ANURADHA THUMULURI (MD)
PSYCHIATRY
MARK TIRITILLI
INTERNAL MEDICINE
JAMES TUCKER
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
JODY TUCKER
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
JODY TUCKER
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
JULIE VANNERSON
INTERNAL MEDICINE
STEPHANIE WALZ
NURSE PRACTITIONER
GLENDA WESTMORELAND
GERIATRIC MEDICINE
JAMES WILCOX
FAMILY PRACTICE
HANNAH WRIGHT
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
2732 W MICHIGAN ST, INDIANAPOLIS, IN 46222 Map
( 317-554-4600)
ROCHELLE BARTRAM
PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT
JESSICA BRIGHT
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
HABIBA CHOUDHRY
FAMILY PRACTICE
CHRISTIE CLAYTON
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
MA ROSARIO DE JESUS
FAMILY PRACTICE
AMY DIRRIM
NURSE PRACTITIONER
ARIEL DRYDEN
OBSTETRICS/GYNECOLOGY
DILLON ETTER
PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT
ELIZABETH FERRIES-ROWE (MD)
OBSTETRICS/GYNECOLOGY
YOLANDA GONZALEZ
NURSE PRACTITIONER
DANIEL GUILES
INTERNAL MEDICINE
JENNIFER GUTWEIN (PA)
PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT
KYLE HAMBLEN
PODIATRY
NICOLE HARDING
PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT
KIRK HOLSTON (DPM)
PODIATRY
CANDY JOHNSON
NURSE PRACTITIONER
NATALIE JONES
PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT
KELLY LENTZ
NURSE PRACTITIONER
ERYN MORROW
PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT
PATRICE MOSLEY
NURSE PRACTITIONER
JANE OLISE AIKINS (CSW)
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
ADEOTI OSHINOWO
OBSTETRICS/GYNECOLOGY
MEGHA PANDA
PEDIATRIC MEDICINE
MICHAEL PUROL
NURSE PRACTITIONER
ABIGAIL SCOTT
PODIATRY
BOBBIE SHEPARD (CSW)
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
RICHARD SHORE
PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT
AMBER THOMAS
PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT
JAMES WILCOX
FAMILY PRACTICE
6940 MICHIGAN RD, INDIANAPOLIS, IN 46268 Map
( 317-266-2901)
NEETA AGARWAL
INTERNAL MEDICINE
SARAH AROSEN
NURSE PRACTITIONER
CRAIG BULLINGTON
INTERNAL MEDICINE
KIRSTEN FITZ
INTERNAL MEDICINE
RACHEL GANTZ FINGERHUT
NURSE PRACTITIONER
KIMBERLY GRIDER
NURSE PRACTITIONER
JENNIFER GUTWEIN (PA)
PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT
JANUARY JETER
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
CANDY JOHNSON
NURSE PRACTITIONER
CANDY JOHNSON
NURSE PRACTITIONER
ERIN JONES
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
CARRIE LEATHERS
INTERNAL MEDICINE
MEGHA PANDA
PEDIATRIC MEDICINE
MATTHEW STEVENSON
NURSE PRACTITIONER
BRIAN WALBORN (OD)
OPTOMETRY
PHILIP WINTERNHEIMER
NURSE PRACTITIONER
2505 N ARLINGTON AVE, INDIANAPOLIS, IN 46218 Map
( 317-554-5200)
SONIA ACEVEDO ESPINOZA
FAMILY PRACTICE
AUTUMN AGBAZA
NURSE PRACTITIONER
JENNIFER BAENZIGER
INTERNAL MEDICINE
JAMES BRUMMETT
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
ALYSSA COOKE
PEDIATRIC MEDICINE
KYLE HAMBLEN
PODIATRY
KIRK HOLSTON (DPM)
PODIATRY
ROBERTA JORDAN
NURSE PRACTITIONER
JASSER KHAIRALLAH
ADDICTION MEDICINE
KATHERINE LANDRY
NURSE PRACTITIONER
AMANDA MORGAN
OBSTETRICS/GYNECOLOGY
DEBORAH STAMPER
CERTIFIED CLINICAL NURSE SPECIALIST (CNS)
ERICA STARKS
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
5515 W 38TH ST, INDIANAPOLIS, IN 46254 Map
( 317-880-3838)
ROCHELLE BARTRAM
PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT
SUSANNE BENTLEY
INTERNAL MEDICINE
MICHELLE BRYANT
INTERNAL MEDICINE
JENNIFER CARLOS
INTERNAL MEDICINE
DILLON ETTER
PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT
HUSSEIN MAGALE
INTERNAL MEDICINE
ADEOTI OSHINOWO
OBSTETRICS/GYNECOLOGY
PETER SCHWARTZ (MD)
INTERNAL MEDICINE
RICHARD SHORE
PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT
KAMALDEEP SINGH HERNANDEZ
INTERNAL MEDICINE
QWINTORIA UPSHAW
NURSE PRACTITIONER
3840 N SHERMAN DR, INDIANAPOLIS, IN 46226 Map
( 317-541-3400)
MAUREEN BENGE
FAMILY PRACTICE
RANA BERRY (MD)
OBSTETRICS/GYNECOLOGY
KYLE HAMBLEN
PODIATRY
LOIS HUGHES
CERTIFIED CLINICAL NURSE SPECIALIST (CNS)
JASSER KHAIRALLAH
ADDICTION MEDICINE
MICHAEL PUROL
NURSE PRACTITIONER
HEIDI SCHMIDT
NURSE PRACTITIONER
CLAUDIA SEARS
NURSE PRACTITIONER
HEATHER STOUT
OPTOMETRY
PHILIP WINTERNHEIMER
NURSE PRACTITIONER
ALLISON YOUNG
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
9443 E 38TH ST, INDIANAPOLIS, IN 46235 Map
( 317-890-2100)
KYLE CARMICHAEL
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
ROLYN CLARKE
NURSE PRACTITIONER
DANIEL GUILES
INTERNAL MEDICINE
CASEY HANLON
PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT
LOIS HUGHES
CERTIFIED CLINICAL NURSE SPECIALIST (CNS)
NATALIE JONES
PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT
JANALEE MIAL
PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT
AMANDA MORGAN
OBSTETRICS/GYNECOLOGY
BOBBIE SHEPARD (CSW)
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
PHILIP WINTERNHEIMER
NURSE PRACTITIONER
2700 DR MARTIN LUTHER KING JR ST, INDIANAPOLIS, IN 46208 Map
( 317-931-4300)
CATHERINE MACKE
NURSE PRACTITIONER
LISA MIMS
OBSTETRICS/GYNECOLOGY
JEREMY MOSHER
FAMILY PRACTICE
JANE OLISE AIKINS (CSW)
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
MEGHA PANDA
PEDIATRIC MEDICINE
ROBERT SCHWEITZER
PSYCHIATRY
DON SIM
INTERNAL MEDICINE
5610 CRAWFORDSVILLE RD, INDIANAPOLIS, IN 46224 Map
( 317-244-2792)
TONYA BUTLER
NURSE PRACTITIONER
BRENDA MELTON
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
LEAH PYLE
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
ANDREA RIDGE
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
JAMES TUCKER
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
1700 N ILLINOIS ST, INDIANAPOLIS, IN 46202 Map
( 317-554-5700)
ELIZABETH BROWN
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
BRIAN EDMONDS
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
MARNIE ENGLEMAN
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
KELSEY HULING
PSYCHIATRY
BRIAN SMITH
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
1660 N ILLINOIS ST, INDIANAPOLIS, IN 46202 Map
( 317-880-2900)
RICHARD KOVACS (MD)
CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE (CARDIOLOGY)
PAULINE SMITH
NURSE PRACTITIONER
501 N E ST, INDIANAPOLIS, IN 46204 Map
( 317-880-5175)
JANE OLISE AIKINS (CSW)
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
3171 N MERIDIAN ST, INDIANAPOLIS, IN 46208 Map
( 317-941-5003)
KATALYN RICHARDS
CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER
1112 SOUTHEASTERN AVE, INDIANAPOLIS, IN 46202 Map
( 317-880-1900)
CRAIG BULLINGTON
INTERNAL MEDICINE

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